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| From | Message | Posted by nathanman22 projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 07:15:44 Play online chess | Subject: Mistakes of the Grandmaster
Message: Just wanted to start a thread to encourage the lower players that even great players will make mistakes. Some of us may feel as if we will never get to the top and are struggling with many mistakes we make on games every day. I thought maybe we could start a thread that included big mistakes made by grandmasters...to show that even they are humans....any links from your games or from the games of the greats are welcome here.
-Nathan
| Posted by ccmcacollister projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 07:28:40 Play online chess | a good start
Message: would be Kramnick getting mated in one by the computer.
| Posted by tim_b projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 07:32:10 Play online chess |
Message: Nice idea for a thread! I know a world class player once fell for a simple early Queen fork:
www.chesskids.com
Does anybody know who the guilty party was? ——— London Chess Classic: Kramnik's lesson in positional play — McShane-Kramnik, London 2009. Black to play. With two rounds to go in the London Chess Classic, the Norwegian chess prodigy Magnus Carlsen looks set to win the tournament. Vladimir Kramnik, his main rival, is in second place. In this game from round three, Kramnik displayed his refined positional understanding. RB I've been following this tournament online, but I missed this particular game, and more's the pity because I can't find a good continuation for Black. Clearly Kramnik has the better game – the two centralised knights look very threatening – but how to convert Black's positional superiority into a winning position? 1...Nxd2 2 Nxd2 doesn't lead anywhere and ...
Posted by heinzkat projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 07:34:39 Play online chess | Probably seen before...
Message:
www.youtube.com ——— Gelfand Wins World Chess Cup — Boris Gelfand of Israel is the 2009 World Cup champion. Gelfand won the title by beating Ruslan Ponomariov of Ukraine in a playoff on Monday. The first four games of the playoff were rapid games (25 minutes per player per game) and Gelfand took the lead by winning the second game. But Ponomariov, with his back to the wall, won the last rapid game to tie the match up again. The playoff then went to blitz chess (5 minutes per player per game) and Gelfand once again took the lead by beating Ponomariov in the first game when he managed to trap Ponomariov’s queen in 21 moves. Ponomariov rallied again, winning the second game. But Gelfand won the third and Ponomariov ...
Posted by pgroenborg projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 08:43:16 Play online chess | Topalov vs Kramnik
Message: I can't link to it right now (working), but Topalov missed a simple mate against Kramnik when they battled for the title.
I think there were more mistakes than that in that match. ;-)
(The spellcheck doesn't know the mentioned players, lol) ——— A tragic knight — The London Chess Classic, a fabulously organized eight-player elite tournament, shaped up as a confrontation between two great chess grandmasters, the top-rated Magnus Carlsen of Norway and the former world chess champion Vladimir Kramnik of Russia. By the luck of draw, they met in the first round, and Carlsen won. The Norwegian GM was still in a clear lead on Sunday with four points in five rounds, a full point ahead of Kramnik. U.S. chess champion Hikaru Nakamura drew four games and lost one. The tournament concludes Tuesday. The Carlsen-Kramnik duel looked like a perfectly played game by the Norwegian, who took advantage of Kramnik's stranded knight. "If one piece is ...
Posted by heinzkat projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 09:07:38 Play online chess |
Message: The video fragment posted above came from Anand - Kasparov, 1996:
Kasparov played Qxe3 here, and after Qxg4 he wasn't so happy.
pgroenborg's mention is this, Topalov - Kramnik, 2006:
Topalov played Qg6+ here, but instead Rxg4+ Bg7 Qc7 wins easily. Later, Kramnik even managed to win the game.
And ccmcacollister's post was about this, Deep Fritz - Kramnik, 2006:
Kramnik played Qe3 here, which wins in all variations, but one. ——— A Game Lasts 163 Moves, and That's Not Even a Record — Chess professionals are conditioned to games that take four to five hours and last about 50 moves, but occasionally play lasts much longer and the contest becomes a war of attrition. That is what happened between Nigel Short and Luke McShane of England in the first round of the London Chess Classic, which started on Tuesday. McShane, who had White, got a tiny advantage out of the opening, but Short defended well, and after 60 moves it seemed as if the game would end in a draw. But McShane, 25, persisted and Short, 44, was forced to continue to defend. It took McShane seven hours, and 163 moves, but he finally broke Short and forced him to resign. That ...
Posted by jstevens1 projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 12:33:05 Play online chess | Amazia Avni's Danger in Chess
Message: In the above regicide manual, if anybody has this, it points out two examples of Messrs Short and Korchnoi walking into mate in one against lesser known GMs.
Joanne ——— Soviet training methods still reign in the chess world — Two decades after the USSR broke up, Soviet training methods remain potent at the chess board. When the field of 128 was reduced to the quarter-finals in the current World Chess Cup, all eight grandmasters remaining had their education from Soviet coaches. The final four-game match now in progress to decide who qualifies for the 2010 candidates is between Ukraine's Ruslan Ponomariov, who won the 2002 World Cup as a teenager, and Boris Gelfand, the 41-year-old top seed. In the semi-finals Ponomariov beat Vlad Malakhov 4-2 while Gelfand eliminated Sergey Karjakin 2-0. In both the semi-final and in the game below the Israeli chess veteran defeated ...
Posted by muppyman projectrosetta.com
4/05/2008 13:19:34 Play online chess | Kasparov v Karpov.
Message: I believe Kasparov blundered away a whole rook in time scramble against Karpov in one of their matches for the world title. The incident was shown on television.
| Posted by djole73 projectrosetta.com
4/06/2008 09:40:18 Play online chess |
Message: Look this:
www.chessgames.com
| Posted by ionadowman projectrosetta.com
4/06/2008 13:17:53 Play online chess | Here's one I discovered recently...
Message: ... a bit of a double-barrelled error this one!
Biel 1988. Zapata vs Anand. Black decided to follow a Petroff Defence game played earlier between Larry Christiansen and Tony Miles, when the theoretically unusual 5...Bf5 had been played. It must have looked intriguing:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4
5.Nc3 Bf5 6.Qe2 1-0.
b
If 6...Qe7, 7.Nd5;
or 6...d5, 7.d3
White wins at least a piece, and even Vishy Anand didn't fancy his chances!
The intriguing question is this: what did Christiansen play? How did he miss the quick kill??
| Posted by ganstaman projectrosetta.com
4/06/2008 13:42:26 Play online chess | zapata-anand
Message: Well, chessgames.com is having a problem at the moment so I can't check this out, but in the kibitzing for that game, I believe someone stated that Miles and Christiansen had previously agreed to draw the game, and when Miles played 5...Bf5, Christiansen didn't play 6. Qe2 (which would have sort of ruined the pre-arranged draw) but did make indications to Miles that his move was quite a bad one.
| Posted by ganstaman projectrosetta.com
4/06/2008 16:13:51 Play online chess |
Message: Ooops, I confused Miles and Christiansen.
www.chessgames.com
And the Anand game: www.chessgames.com with the quote:
"Tennyson: <hollowone> and <themindset> Yes, Anand was under the spell of the journal "Informator" and the Miles-Chrstiansen 1987 came contained within. I learned of this in Steve Giddins's _101 Chess Opening Traps_ where he explains why all the aforementioned (except Zapata) "missed" 6. Qe2. Informator failed to explain that the Miles-Christiansen game had been agreed to be drawn before either had made a move. What follows is priceless: "At the board, Tony saw that 6. Qe2 was winning, but remained the gentleman and avoided playing it. Mind you, I understand that he did spend some seconds 'polishing' the e2-square with his forefinger, until he was satisfied that Larry Christiansen's face had assumed a suitable shade of red..." (61). LOL! "
| Posted by ionadowman projectrosetta.com
4/07/2008 03:26:01 Play online chess | ...
Message: Makes a good story, anyhow. It seems, by the way that the book I was quoting got Miles and Christiansen the wrong way round too - or else I just misremembered it...
But the mistake Anand made was rather unusual for a GM: playing an unfamiliar opening line without doing some preliminary homework.
Some of the best (worst) GM mistakes happen when they have the advantage. Better yet is when they face some unknown, and take things a bit too easily. My favorite is this disaster from the Skoplje Olympiad, 1972. Here, the GM doesn't make a single move blunder - rather his whole game went horribly wrong:
White: W.S. Browne (USA); Black: Taha (Iraq)
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7
5.e5 Nfd7 6.Bxe7 Qxe7 7.Nb5?! Nb6! 8.a4? a6
9.a5 axb5 10.axb6 Qxa1 11.Qxa1 c6 12.Qa8 0-0
13.Qxb8 Qb4+ 14.c3 Qxb2 15.Ne2 b4 16.cxb4 Qxb4+
17.Kd1 Qb3+ 18.Kd2 Qb4+ 19.Kd3? c5! 20.Qc7 c4+
21.Ke3 Qb3+ 22.Kf4 Qd3 (-+) 23.f3 Qd2+ 24.Kg3 Qe1+
25.Kh3 Qf2 26.Kg4 f6 27.exf6 e5+ 28.Kh5 gxf6
29.dxe5 fxe5 30.Qe7 Rf5+ 1-0 (31.Kh6 Qxb6+ etc).
In the same Olympiad, GM Tringov had more than one awful disaster. About to capture Uhlmann's extra pawn, Tringov forgot to move his K first to avert the Q fork after Qe1+ that picked up the rook.
But Tringov's worst move was "Adjourned move (written on score sheet) to trouser pocket" - a blunder that cost him the game against Korchnoi.
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by mekk projectrosetta.com
4/07/2008 16:50:50 Play online chess |
Message: Kramnik made a few noticeable blunders. Mistake against Fritz is already quoted above, but he also blundered a piece in his earlier anti-engine match. And he played this aganst Anand at Mobitel 2005: www.chessbase.com
| Posted by ccmcacollister projectrosetta.com
4/08/2008 14:44:52 Play online chess | Here is a very fun game ...
Message: Take a look at Kasparovs reaction to the type of blunder he made vs Anand. Now put Gary in Kramnicks seat for the infamous Mate in One ... and imagine the look, the reaction. Would not the walls shake? And poor Gary, would He survive such a er faux pas? No I think. Fortunately the Q: also arises, would he Make such. I am confident we will not have to watch Gary die at the board :))
(Secondly; why is faux pas not in the spellchecker??; who needs the word more than Chessplayers!!)
| Posted by chessnovice projectrosetta.com
4/08/2008 18:33:07 Play online chess | watching that video makes me think
Message: I'd love to play Kasparov in a poker match.
| Posted by ionadowman projectrosetta.com
4/09/2008 01:46:23 Play online chess | It's especially ...
Message: ... entertaining (or galling) when a GM makes a mistake in his writing. You would think that in all peace and quiet at the writing desk, such a one would spot and correct any boo-boos that might otherwise creep in.
Check this one from J.R.capabalnca's "Last Lectures" (otherwise quite a useful little book of Capablanca's radio lectures of the late 1930s). Lecture 8 discussed the Ruy Lopez Opening, taking the audience deep into the game:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6
5.0-0 Nxe4 (a move Capablanca allowed he disliked sufficiently as being unable to recall his ever having played it in a tournament game)
6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 9.c3 Be7
10.Nbd2 Nc5 11.Bc2 d5 12.Ne4 dxc3 13.Nxc5 Bxc5
14.Be4 Qd7 15.bxc3 Rd8 16.Qxd7+ Bxd7 17.Rd1 ...
Now, I have omitted Capablanca's remarks on the opening this far, but here he remarks that the move played prevents Black from castling, owing to 17...0-0? 18.Rxd7 Rxd7 19.Bxc6 winning 2 minor pieces for the rook. Unfortunately for this piece of advice, Black has a won game! Check it out: Black to play and win:
b
In defence of the author, though, it's easy to make oversights like this at the desk. In actual play, Capa would have spotted the hole in a moment.
Cheers,
Ion
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